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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 5 @ 2:09 PM ET
Jan Levine: Grading the Rangers: Chris Kreider and Impact of Lower Cap CK20, feast or famine
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
This is an easy one....A++
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 5 @ 2:21 PM ET
This is an easy one....A++
- TPC

Now take off the rose colored, Kreider worship glasses and give me a real grade
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:24 PM ET
Jan Levine: Grading the Rangers: Chris Kreider and Impact of Lower Cap
CK20, feast or famine

- airjan23

What would the Rangers be looking to get back from a kreider trade ? Younger cheap defence ? Forward prospect ? Picks or a combination of any of those lol ? Like if you trade him what do the Rangers need to get back.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 5 @ 2:26 PM ET
What would the Rangers be looking to get back from a kreider trade ? Younger cheap defence ? Forward prospect ? Picks or a combination of any of those lol ? Like if you trade him what do the Rangers need to get back.
- blizzzard

Probably all of the above. The return would like need to blow away the Rangers to move Kreider, especially since he is arb eligible this year and next.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
Probably all of the above. The return would like need to blow away the Rangers to move Kreider, especially since he is arb eligible this year and next.
- airjan23

Yeah, didn't think he would come cheap just curious if he was dealt if it would be to fill the same need or for defensive help or if it would mostly cap related.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:28 PM ET
What would the Rangers be looking to get back from a kreider trade ? Younger cheap defence ? Forward prospect ? Picks or a combination of any of those lol ? Like if you trade him what do the Rangers need to get back.
- blizzzard



We should trade for him as an insurance policy so that he doesn't destroy Schneider at some point.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 5 @ 2:28 PM ET
C+?

Jan you gotta ask yourself what expectations you had on these players before the season started. ACROSS THE BOARD people thought Kreider would have a 30 goal season where he's finally consistent and dominant from start to finish.

Can you really say his season was close to that? His season was a FAILURE in that regard. the only thing keeping it from not being a total failure is he still managed to pass 20 goals. In which case I give him a D+
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 5 @ 2:34 PM ET
C+?

Jan you gotta ask yourself what expectations you had on these players before the season started. ACROSS THE BOARD people thought Kreider would have a 30 goal season where he's finally consistent and dominant from start to finish.

Can you really say his season was close to that? His season was a FAILURE in that regard. the only thing keeping it from not being a total failure is he still managed to pass 20 goals. In which case I give him a D+

- rangerdanger94

I agree, which is why I went with the C+. Overall, lousy, but rallied late to end up with 21. I don't believe his season was particularly good and could see a lower grade. Went back and forth between C+, C, C-, maybe I was too generous.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:37 PM ET
We should trade for him as an insurance policy so that he doesn't destroy Schneider at some point.
- smellmyfinger

I think he's a good player but we won't trade with each other and they would want triple from us what they would ask from anyone else lol
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 5 @ 2:55 PM ET
I agree, which is why I went with the C+. Overall, lousy, but rallied late to end up with 21. I don't believe his season was particularly good and could see a lower grade. Went back and forth between C+, C, C-, maybe I was too generous.
- airjan23

A grade in the C range for any player just seems like a cop out to me

Either a player had a good season or a player had a bad season. A's and B's or D's and F's. No more C's
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 5 @ 3:18 PM ET
C = ehh.......I think that grade of "C" sums up the NYR season. Not too many failures but alot of play that left much to he desired, by most ranger players. Kreider was no different
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
A grade in the C range for any player just seems like a cop out to me

Either a player had a good season or a player had a bad season. A's and B's or D's and F's. No more C's

- rangerdanger94

Very few have received B's and unsure if I am giving any A's, a best, maybe one. D of F means failure and hard to say that a season was a failure. Girardi got a D, could see a few more with a D.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 5 @ 5:18 PM ET
I agree with the C+ assessment, he was dreadfully inconsistent for two thirds of the season, finished strong and still give you hope at age 25, I'm not open to trading him, his size and speed are what's needed to win in today's NHL
hipcheck17
New York Rangers
Location: NY, NY
Joined: 07.21.2006

Jun 5 @ 6:36 PM ET
Kreider is a mental midget that needs to get his head out if his ass. If over thinking got you an award he would be the all-time winner. He's like a Doberman pincher...the body type to be an awesome dog but a head too small for its brain. Frustrating is the word to describe his many off nights. I can go on but ultimately his potential is still there and give another year or 2. Playoff performance is what us keeping here for me and it has come in the regular season as well. C+
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 5 @ 6:51 PM ET
Adam the Nerd Herman just brought up something I didn't think of and haven't seen much about, I wonder how many more "rentals" will be available at next season's deadline, have to think it opens up the possibility of a lot of posturing leading up to the expansion draft
RustyKuntz
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:19 PM ET
This is an easy one....A++
- TPC

RustyKuntz
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:21 PM ET
I agree with the C+ assessment, he was dreadfully inconsistent for two thirds of the season, finished strong and still give you hope at age 25, I'm not open to trading him, his size and speed are what's needed to win in today's NHL
- KreiderBomb

This is what I've been saying. He IS going to break out & I still think in Todd Bertuzzi type of a way (not including the savging of another man's career I hope). I can see us dealing him away & regretting it for a decade or more. Unless the right deal comes along(I mean, us being blown away w an offer) we have to keep him.
Mr.Honcho
New Jersey Devils
Location: Something I want to get off my chest. Its about that summer, when you went away to community college, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2016

Jun 5 @ 7:44 PM ET
F-
RustyKuntz
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:52 PM ET
F-
- Mr.Honcho

F-YOU.
Mr.Honcho
New Jersey Devils
Location: Something I want to get off my chest. Its about that summer, when you went away to community college, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2016

Jun 5 @ 7:55 PM ET
F-YOU.

- RustyKuntz



He was one of my favorites. I'm tired of waiting for the eventual "breakout year". Don't think it's ever coming. He doesn't play a full regular season.
RustyKuntz
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Jun 5 @ 8:00 PM ET


He was one of my favorites. I'm tired of waiting for the eventual "breakout year". Don't think it's ever coming. He doesn't play a full regular season.

- Mr.Honcho

Maybe the Rag$ will give a BIG middle finger to matt this summer.
RustyKuntz
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Jun 5 @ 8:03 PM ET
Stumbled across this, lol, Beukeboom vs Beers? I thought Bob Beers retired in the 80s. Isles got they're asses kicked here. And Redden an islander?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 5 @ 8:05 PM ET
Maybe the Rag$ will give a BIG middle finger to matt this summer.
- RustyKuntz

the middle finger will come right back at them the minute they do
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 5 @ 8:07 PM ET
the middle finger will come right back at them the minute they do
- TPC



Kreider to the Flyers E4
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